#Histedchat 08/05/13: Teaching 20th Century Wars

Hi all, thanks again for the great conversation. I tried to make a Storify but it again did not work for me, so I just pasted all the tweets from http://tweetchat.com/room/histedchat# below. It’s probably easier to read this way anyway. Look forward to our next chat!

vanweringh Anyone can moderate a #histedchat, pick a topic or set up a poll. Post the archive on our wiki: http://t.co/4LwlQw5Zww -9:31 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou RT @CatherineRHart: @HistoryNeedsYou in Aus – borrow a memorial box – gr8 artifacts http://t.co/nLJnDvphr8 #histedchat -9:31 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis @vanweringh @CatherineRHart and everyone – Thanks for tonight’s #histedchat. Now need to finish dishes & school lunches! -9:31 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 RT @vanweringh: Here are all my Diigo links on WW2: http://t.co/HItLDzF4XI and WW1: http://t.co/xUju2oRovz #histedchat -9:30 PM May 8th, 2013

mirah Something to assist Ps to empathise with the homefront experience of WW1 http://t.co/MRFM8NcKVM #histedchat 
-9:30 PM May 8th, 2013

yadvashem The International School for Holocaust Studies http://t.co/rQttwW245v has lesson plans, learning environments and online courses #histedchat -9:30 PM May 8th, 2013

MrAOtway @vanweringh #histedchat screw up paper, find somewhere high, ask students to drop into a box whilst walking – shows difficulties of bombing -9:30 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Thank you #histedchat. I’ll create an archive of tweets. Please also use the tag during the week to share resources. -9:30 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart @HistoryNeedsYou in Aus – borrow a memorial box – gr8 artifacts http://t.co/nLJnDvphr8 #histedchat 
-9:30 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim Richard Frankland shares story of making Harry’s WAr http://t.co/MaJ9cbf38Y #histedchat -9:29 PM May 8th, 
2013

yadvashem Online exhibitions about the Holocaust http://t.co/zcfPSaADEc including detailed info, photos, artifacts, video testimonies #histedchat -9:29 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh We are nearly done and I have to go give my family some attention. #histedchat. Please share some of your fav resources. -9:28 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Here are all my Diigo links on WW2: http://t.co/HItLDzF4XI and WW1: http://t.co/xUju2oRovz #histedchat 
-9:28 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim RSL archives are fabulous for student connection #histedchat need to go beyond text book if at all possible Harry’s War great -9:27 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Create a Morrison shelter in class using tables and blankets. #WW2 #histedchat http://t.co/dQ0UsqhPke -9:27 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart Important that Ss don’t see war or wars as something that happened either in the past or in a distant place – global effects #histedchat -9:26 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @HistoryNeedsYou So cool, look how engaged they are! #histedchat -9:25 PM May 8th, 2013

sallyluane @vanweringh @CatherineRHart Have put Ss in small spaces 2 experience the lack of it during deportation & in the ghettoes #histedchat -9:25 PM May 8th, 2013

HanniesAntiques RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Build an Anderson shelter in school from corrugated cardboard. #WW2 #histedchat http://t.co/szE7R15hWC -9:25 PM May 8th, 2013

yadvashem @catherinerhart Here is the link http://t.co/Hr50VYhhgG to info about Righteous Among the Nations #histedchat -9:24 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim @vanweringh we have Albanian community in Melbourne #histedchat -9:24 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Build an Anderson shelter in school from corrugated cardboard. #WW2 #histedchat http://t.co/szE7R15hWC -9:24 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Time flies #histedchat. To finish off, please share your fav resources for WW1 and WW2 in particular. -9:23 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim “@CatherineRHart: @olivesnsunshine yes – need to humanise the experience of war so Ss can empathise #histedchat” yes -9:23 PM May 8th, 2013

hillaryssteps RT @HistoryNeedsYou: The Cold War Museum at RAF Cosford @RAFMUSEUM is a brilliant teaching resource. 
#histedchat http://t.co/mJrtlOr51O -9:22 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @olivesnsunshine @historyboy77 Albanian? Now there’s a perspective you hear little about! #histedchat -9:22 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim Family history will always. Have some link to war g8program on24 APril on774 RIchard Stubbs http://t.co/J9bwXKVO2u #histedchat -9:22 PM May 8th, 2013

katelaity RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Women have been at the forefront of C20th wars,nas this butt-kicking WAAF heroine demonstrates. #histedchat http://t.co/DVuA2kFEE4 -9:21 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis @CatherineRHart @vanweringh I’m about to give Ss brief research project to be expert on 1 WW2 battle & teach it to their peers #histedchat -9:21 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @CatherineRHart In #IBhistory, we focus on causes, practices and effects, but have to inject human dimension and experience. #histedchat -9:21 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine @historyboy77 @vanweringh That’s what we’re talking about! Embrace, embrace diversity! #histedchat 
-9:21 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart @olivesnsunshine yes – need to humanise the experience of war so Ss can empathise #histedchat -9:20 
PM May 8th, 2013

sallyluane @CatherineRHart @vanweringh what 2 tch goes w/- great resources. The Waifs Bridal Train WW2 Home front http://t.co/IPrYDkIckl #histedchat -9:20 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh RT @CatherineRHart: when pressed for time hard thing is what to focus on when teaching wars – what are your experiences? #histedchat @vanweringh -9:19 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine A3.Track war thru everyday objects Ss interact with eg smartphones-the #resourcecurse of #DRC war. Global active citizenship #histedchat -9:19 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart A3: tching about wars teaches about individual responsibility/ power of each person – see Righteous Among the Nations @yadvashem #histedchat -9:18 PM May 8th, 2013

MrAOtway #histedchat take them outside, read them trench accounts in the rain or cold. If you are quick enough they won’t catch hypothermia. -9:18 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim Used to invite staff who were involved in VIetwar -Conscripts,resisters, those who dodged the marble to share their experiences #histedchat -9:18 PM May 8th, 2013

schoolscatinfo #histedchat can I mention scootle as a great resource for digital resources http://t.co/xse6QHekSU 
-9:18 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis #histedchat activity/project to compare &contrast roles of women in WW1 and WW2. Use as launching pad 2 discuss women’s roles in 20th c -9:18 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @sallyluane @HistoryNeedsYou So many gr8 hands-on empathy activities you can do. I find they work best in lower years. #histedchat -9:18 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @vanweringh @olivesnsunshine I’ve been complimented on it before. Both for the Polish and Albanian mentalities #Histedchat -9:17 PM May 8th, 2013

yadvashem Who, how, what’s next? http://t.co/2m6mCazyEW Teach about child Holocaust survivors #histedchat -9:16 PM 
May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Inviting groups like @thewarwicks1418 to school is a valuable resource for teaching about #WW1 #histedchat http://t.co/nxRhnO6G61 -9:16 PM May 8th, 2013

sallyluane @HistoryNeedsYou In year 8 we write letters home from the front. The kids get a homemade anzac biscuits wrapped in brown paper. #histedchat -9:16 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @historyboy77 @olivesnsunshine Yes, global empathy is vital, so many refugees that need resettlement. #histedchat -9:16 PM May 8th, 2013

MrAOtway @HistoryNeedsYou great idea with the food, I’m having that. Air raid always goes down well esp if you have a suitable ‘shelter’ #histedchat -9:16 PM May 8th, 2013

joannewcomb RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Women have been at the forefront of C20th wars,nas this butt-kicking WAAF heroine 
demonstrates. #histedchat http://t.co/DVuA2kFEE4 -9:15 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim http://t.co/9m7oZN2Mui great examples of student digital histories with links to WAr and conflict 
#histedchat -9:15 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Teaching wars requires careful crafting in order to uncover values and concepts. Sts should be led to draw their own conclusions #histedchat -9:15 PM May 8th, 2013

yadvashem Artifacts & the stories behind them http://t.co/CSl1cUA9TE can highlight personal experiences and inform about specific events #histedchat -9:14 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 A3 An understanding what lies behind the mentality of peoples because of their History #Histedchat – 
9:14 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart when pressed for time hard thing is what to focus on when teaching wars – what are your experiences? #histedchat @vanweringh -9:14 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Making ration-foods such as mock banana & Woolton pie and conducting air-raid drills are good ways 
to teach #WW2 in class. #histedchat -9:13 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 A3 reflecting @olivesnsunshine: Empathy with other peoples, especially victims of War, and having 
that global perspective. #Histedchat -9:12 PM May 8th, 2013

BriW74 RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Women have been at the forefront of C20th wars,nas this butt-kicking WAAF heroine 
demonstrates. #histedchat http://t.co/DVuA2kFEE4 -9:12 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Priceless, @HistoryNeedsYou! You get the prize for posting the best photo. #histedchat http://t.co/1ogWwI080T -9:12 PM May 8th, 2013

ac_brite @HistoryNeedsYou cracker in more ways than one! Ha! #histedchat -9:12 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim @CatherineRHart Soldier settlement impacts huge parts of Australiaconsequence of WW1 #histedchat Local history offers scope for students -9:11 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart A3: Compassion, understanding, tolerance, cooperation – human rights and values #histedchat -9:10PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Dr. Seuss – The Butter Battle Book – Part 1 of 2: http://t.co/VKpUQWuthr #histedchat #coldwar -9:10 PM May 8th, 2013

schoolscatinfo Interesting discussion (as usual) going on over at #histedchat this evening -9:10 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine Q3. Empathy, global perspectives, critical literacy-there is more than one story, & many questions to formulate, resilience #histedchat -9:09 PM May 8th, 2013

IsSoFab RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Women have been at the forefront of C20th wars,nas this butt-kicking WAAF heroine 
demonstrates. #histedchat http://t.co/DVuA2kFEE4 -9:09 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Women have been at the forefront of C20th wars,nas this butt-kicking WAAF heroine demonstrates. 
#histedchat http://t.co/DVuA2kFEE4 -9:09 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @historyboy77 @HistoryNeedsYou @sallyluane @Janpcim Good, our first Historiography tweet! #histedchat 
-9:08 PM May 8th, 2013

MrAOtway @vanweringh causation,significance, interpretations, list is almost endless. Make relevant using current 
events+media+local hist #histedchat -9:08 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @sallyluane @HistoryNeedsYou @Janpcim The animation done of that is good and is on youtube. #Histedchat -9:08 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim World Events Local Impacts offers students opportunities to investigate consequences of war http://t.co/9m7oZN2Mui #histedchat -9:08 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @sallyluane No, but Dr Seuss is always great, will look into it! Thx #histedchat -9:07 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou No, but I shall “@sallyluane: @HistoryNeedsYou speaking of Cold War, ever used ‘The Butter Battle Book’ by Dr Suess? #histedchat” -9:07 PM May 8th, 2013

BakEsteR1984 #Histedchat Sorry about missing tonight, had Parent Teacher Interviews, will read the Tweets after dinner and answer the Qs. Have fun! -9:06 PM May 8th, 2013

mesterman #histedchat sorry for not being vocal tonight. Will catch up later! -9:06 PM May 8th, 2013

sallyluane @HistoryNeedsYou @historyboy77 @Janpcim speaking of Cold War, ever used ‘The Butter Battle Book’ by Dr Suess? #histedchat -9:06 PM May 8th, 2013

mirah Nice set of contemporary & historical political cartoons – immigration, impact of war http://t.co/bdDU1BDgxr 
#histedchat @CatherineRHart -9:05 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Q3: What concepts and values do wars teach our students? How do we maximise that? #histedchat -9:05 PM 
May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine @vanweringh A “Her-story” senior unit I was taught discussed the use of Gender-based violence as a 
tool of war. Never left me. #histedchat -9:05 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou @CatherineRHart @vanweringh @Janpcim don’t forget WW2 war debts – last UK debt paid off very 
recently. #histedchat -9:05 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr #histedchat … oops, gotta go … iPad battery down to 9% @CatherineRHart will DM you tomorrow re the article. Night all -9:05 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh RT @Janpcim: This short video has great commentary by cartoonist and curator on political cartoons http://t.co/0VTlOrmPSk #histedchat -9:04 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh RT @Janpcim: This short video has great commentary by cartoonist and curator on political cartoons http://t.co/ziVVOP11V1 #histedchat -9:04 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @Janpcim True, we now have Dinka, Afghan, Sri Lankan communities. Syrian refugees next? No wars without refugees. #histedchat -9:04 PM May 8th, 2013

MrAOtway RT @vanweringh: @HistoryNeedsYou @Janpcim and Germany made ww1 final reparation in 2010. #histedchat – 9:03 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr @Janpcim #histedchat … thanks for the link, will take a look later! -9:03 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim This short video has great commentary by cartoonist and curator on political cartoons http://t.co/ziVVOP11V1 #histedchat -9:02 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @HistoryNeedsYou @sallyluane @Janpcim Arguably Stalin fits more as a co-belligerent than ally. He had 
his own interests in WW2 #histedchat -9:02 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @HistoryNeedsYou @Janpcim and Germany made ww1 final reparation in 2010. #histedchat -9:02 PM May 8th, 
2013

ac_brite @HistoryNeedsYou @CatherineRHart best way as students visual learners then hit them with the real stuff 
when they are hooked! #histedchat -9:01 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 A really good thing to get past is all the Soviet/Russian Mythmaking about 20th C #Histedchat. -9:00 
PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart @vanweringh @MrAOtway gr8 resource for tching political cartoons http://t.co/eMg3gmU0rq #histedchat 
-9:00 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @CatherineRHart Wars serve as a political & cultural identity, binds people together. Is also in Gov’s 
best interest, isn’t it? #histedchat -9:00 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim How many communities in Aust began due to ppl fleeing impact of war … Goes back to 19 th century and 
continues today #histedchat -9:00 PM May 8th, 2013

CamObserved RT @HistoryNeedsYou: I cannot recommend @BritishPathe too highly for teaching C20th history. A 
brilliant resource. #histedchat -8:59 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou @historyboy77 @sallyluane @Janpcim yes, the Cold War started before WW2 not after it. #histedchat 
-8:59 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh RT @HistoryNeedsYou: I cannot recommend @BritishPathe too highly for teaching C20th history. A 
brilliant resource. #histedchat -8:58 PM May 8th, 2013

DavidCameronUK RT @HistoryNeedsYou: I cannot recommend @BritishPathe too highly for teaching C20th history. A 
brilliant resource. #histedchat -8:58 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim RT @CatherineRHart: Teaching wars in terms of international relations is so relevant to past, present and 
future/s #histedchat -8:58 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart memorialisation and mythologication – important – what is remembered and what is forgotten? Why? 
#histedchat -8:58 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @MrAOtway Yes, I like to start with current political cartoons as primary sources and then move to 
analysing cartoons from #ww2. #histedchat -8:58 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @HistoryNeedsYou @sallyluane @Janpcim Reflecting Norman Davies here. The Cold War set up was a product of ww2! #Histedchat -8:58 PM May 8th, 2013

searching4jbo RT @Janpcim: not just war as part of chest thumping nationalism story … Who is left out when victors tell the story #histedchat in all warstories -8:57 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine RT @connectedtchr: @vanweringh @olivesnsunshine #histedchat 2/2 … the people who fill the spaces in between.” From her latest novel The Storyteller -8:57 PM May 8th, 2013

GeoffPolHist @CatherineRHart @historyboy77 @vanweringh lecturer rewriting war topics 4Oz Studies unit with 85% Educ students v interesting #histedchat -8:57 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou I cannot recommend @BritishPathe too highly for teaching C20th history. A brilliant resource. #histedchat -8:56 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @MrAOtway @1infanteriediv Thank you, great site! http://t.co/fQX0NSKkNv #ww1 #histedchat -8:56 PM May 
8th, 2013

connectedtchr @vanweringh @olivesnsunshine #histedchat 2/2 … the people who fill the spaces in between.” From her 
latest novel The Storyteller -8:56 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim “@connectedtchr: @olivesnsunshine textbook history avoided if we look toimpact on local community 
#histedchat memorials, avenue of honour -8:56 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine RT @connectedtchr: @vanweringh @olivesnsunshine #histedchat … both, a quote from Jodi Picoult 
“History isn’t about dates and places and wars. It’s about 1/2 -8:56 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart @yadvashem photo of Euphoria of end of WWII contrast with liberation of Holoc. survivors diff 
perspectives of freedom important #histedchat -8:56 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr @vanweringh @olivesnsunshine #histedchat … both, a quote from Jodi Picoult “History isn’t about 
dates and places and wars. It’s about 1/2 -8:55 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou @sallyluane @Janpcim Korea is still the unfinished part of #WW2 #histedchat -8:55 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 RT @CatherineRHart Teaching wars in terms of international relations is so relevant to past, present 
and future/s #histedchat -8:55 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou @CatherineRHart @ac_brite yes, start with film/comedy/drama and then move to docu sources. 
#histedchat -8:55 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine @connectedtchr Agreed #histedchat “experience” as in how they connect to 20C wars in their 
everyday experiences -8:54 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @bilbolewis Yes, that is SO important. Have to make connection to current affairs, that’s what it’s all 
about #syria #histedchat -8:54 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart Teaching wars in terms of international relations is so relevant to past, present and future/s 
#histedchat -8:54 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim RT @bilbolewis: #histedchat but I try to bring in current events to make analogies. Eg asking if not 
getting involved in Syria will b viewed as appeasement -8:54 PM May 8th, 2013

MrAOtway “@1infanteriediv: @MrAOtway http://t.co/EESJ1lEdev #horrorsofwar” #histedchat -8:54 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou #WW2 events at @svrofficialsite and other heritage locations make history real for pupils 
#histedchat http://t.co/aPR6aNBk64 -8:54 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim not just war as part of chest thumping nationalism story … Who is left out when victors tell the story 
#histedchat in all warstories -8:53 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh I have another interesting Q, thanks to @olivesnsunshine: The gender question when teaching wars: HIS- 
story or HER-story? Why? #histedchat -8:53 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @vanweringh Good book on the matter is Misha Glenny’s “The Balkans 1804-1999: Nationalism, War and 
the Great Powers”#Histedchat -8:52 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis #histedchat but I try to bring in current events to make analogies. Eg asking if not getting involved 
in Syria will b viewed as appeasement -8:52 PM May 8th, 2013

coldwar_history RT @HistoryNeedsYou: The Cold War Museum at RAF Cosford @RAFMUSEUM is a brilliant teaching 
resource. #histedchat http://t.co/mJrtlOr51O -8:52 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr @olivesnsunshine #histedchat misunderstood your use of “experience” current students lack the first 
hand connection, it’s textbook history -8:52 PM May 8th, 2013

MrAOtway Important to teach to erode media induced misconceptions + easier to teach because they spark such 
interest #histedchat -8:51 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @CatherineRHart @vanweringh That’s something one would more discuss if you really specialise in that 
region. #Histedchat -8:51 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @Historylecturer Yes, you are right. Teaching wars always involves “picking your battles”, such a 
neverending. #histedchat -8:50 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @CatherineRHart @vanweringh There are other conflicts as well. Slovak–Hungarian War (1939) which is 
almost unknown in the west #Histedchat -8:50 PM May 8th, 2013

ac_brite @HistoryNeedsYou @CatherineRHart @vanweringh love using literature art and cinema to enhance this aspect 
#histedchat -8:49 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Important point made by @Janpcim – C20th wars did not end with cessation of gunfire. Effects 
always longer lasting. #histedchat -8:49 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @sallyluane I think wars also serve a cultural identity purpose (Australia-ANZACs, UK-Dunkirk etc) 
#histedchat -8:49 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim @connectedtchr @olivesnsunshine family connections still exist … Why did your family come to Aust so 
often connected to war #histedchat -8:49 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer WW2 too big for school syllabi. I used to run an after-school club on nothing else! #histedchat – 
8:48 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @historyboy77 True, and Balkans war of the 1990s was a straight result from WW1 and WW2 & back even 
further. Interesting area. #histedchat -8:48 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine Use of propaganda and power of media in war #Rwanda #FirstIraqwar #histedchat -8:48 PM May 8th, 
2013

bilbolewis #histedchat I do think WW2 and Cold War help Ss understand the present world. Not always easy for them 
to grasp but -8:48 PM May 8th, 2013

bartollengua RT @HistoryNeedsYou: A1. All wars have an educational value as all war is failure. We learn much from 
our mistakes and failings #histedchat -8:47 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr @olivesnsunshine #histedchat 2/2 that personal connection to the wars is now long gone! -8:47 PM May 
8th, 2013

sallyluane A1- not just educational value- there is value in all wars. Perhaps it’s curriculum, preference, best- 
for-future-units driven #histedchat -8:47 PM May 8th, 2013

Sarah_May1 RT @HistoryNeedsYou: A1. All wars have an educational value as all war is failure. We learn much from 
our mistakes and failings #histedchat -8:47 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim Increasingly it is imptto acknowledge our std cohort, the cultural diversity in the classroom &how we 
choose to offer content #histedchat -8:47 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou We must teach about the effects of C20th wars on civilians, children, disease, displacement etc 
#histedchat @CatherineRHart @vanweringh -8:46 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @CatherineRHart @vanweringh I was speaking of the set of Balkans Wars prior to 1914 #Histedchat -8:46 
PM May 8th, 2013

NemesisRepublic RT @HistoryNeedsYou: The Cold War Museum at RAF Cosford @RAFMUSEUM is a brilliant teaching 
resource. #histedchat http://t.co/mJrtlOr51O -8:45 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou We have a responsibility as educators to teach about the full spectrum C20th wars, not the 
Generals’ POV. #histedchat @vanweringh -8:45 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine Sharon from @OxfamAustralia .Not a HistTr but interestd in gender,which wars r chosen & students 
current experience of “war” #histedchat -8:45 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim RT @connectedtchr: @CatherineRHart #histedchat … true Catherine, just finished Jodi Picoult’s The 
Storyteller, lots of possibilities in it to teach Holocaust -8:45 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @CatherineRHart How did your experience at Yad Vashem influence your teaching of the Holocaust? (Can’t 
b answered in 140 char!) #histedchat -8:45 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr @CatherineRHart #histedchat … true Catherine, just finished Jodi Picoult’s The Storyteller, lots of 
possibilities in it to teach Holocaust -8:44 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart @historyboy77 @vanweringh interesting we are trying to teach Gallipoli from a world history 
perspective – Turkish view etc #histedchat -8:44 PM May 8th, 2013

ac_brite @HistoryNeedsYou absolutely so do I as well with the added stories for Australia and NZ of our indigenous 
soldiers #histedchat -8:44 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer WW2 was 6 wars mixed: 1. China/Jap 2. Gny/Fr-Brit 3.Italy/Brit for Med 4. Gny/USSR 5. Jap/Brit- 
Fr-Neths 6Jap/USA #histedchat -8:44 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis RT @Janpcim: #histedchat good evening all yes the scope of WW2 offers content challenge but it does 
offer opps group approach EUropean , Asia Pacific -8:43 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou The Cold War Museum at RAF Cosford @RAFMUSEUM is a brilliant teaching resource. #histedchat 
http://t.co/mJrtlOr51O -8:43 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @vanweringh has been said though that WW1 was a Balkans War gone European gone Global, yet little 
attention is given to Balkans #histedchat -8:43 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @Janpcim Agree, WW2 can be approached from Euro centric PoV or from an Asian PoV, makes it interesting. 
#histedchat -8:43 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis @vanweringh #histedchat I describe WW2 to my Ss as the ‘pivot’ of the 20th C where shift from many 
competing ideologies to two main ones -8:43 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim AS educator at Immigration Museum , Melb feel outcomes of wars central to our content #histedchat WArs and 
movement of ppl very connected -8:42 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart A1 tching about war & genocide & atrocities also teaches about triumph of human spirit – of great 
success in face of adversity #histedchat -8:42 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @HistoryNeedsYou Ah, that’s a big one….. do we really? No all out war since WW2, but we still pander 
to dictators #histedchat -8:42 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 @vanweringh I think both ww1 and ww2 have such wide scope so they get preeminence #Histedchat -8:41 
PM May 8th, 2013

MiddleGroundJrn RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Good morning. Please join in around the world with our live #histedchat about 
teaching C20th wars – contributors from UK, US, Aus & more -8:40 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim #histedchat good evening all yes the scope of WW2 offers content challenge but it does offer opps group 
approach EUropean , Asia Pacific -8:40 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart A1: Any study of war can focus on a range of core concepts – ranging from overtly political to 
critical human values #histedchat -8:40 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr #histedchat A1 … always thought WWI is a more compact topic, cause and effect, Versailles etc. WWII 
is so much more complex, broad -8:40 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou A1. All wars have an educational value as all war is failure. We learn much from our mistakes and 
failings #histedchat -8:40 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis #histedchat Inventory: we do WW1 in yr 9, WW2, Cold War, Vietnam. Also chance for Ss choice of late 
20th C wars for Issues 4 the millennium -8:39 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou I teach WW1 & WW2 with an emphasis on Commonwealth personnel to ensure relevance to my 
multicultural audiences #histedchat -8:38 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr @vanweringh @bilbolewis #histedchat … unfortunately I’m not teaching any modern at the moment. Did 
teach senior model in the past -8:38 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh This leads to my first Q: Why do we teach some wars over others? Do some wars have more ‘educational 
value’? #histedchat -8:37 PM May 8th, 2013

Amelia_Draws RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Good morning. Please join in around the world with our live #histedchat about 
teaching C20th wars – contributors from UK, US, Aus & more -8:37 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Good morning. Please join in around the world with our live #histedchat about teaching C20th wars 
– contributors from UK, US, Aus & more -8:36 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis #histedchat Bill Lewis here, History & Geo tchr in Melbourne. Excited to discuss 20th C wars -8:36 PM 
May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @bilbolewis Yes, let’s start with an inventory. Do we all ‘teach’ WW1 and WW2, Cold Wars? Which wars 
are you currently teaching? #histedchat -8:36 PM May 8th, 2013

connectedtchr @bilbolewis #histedchat … have to agree Bill, always found it more difficult, think its the sheer 
breadth of the topic -8:36 PM May 8th, 2013

bilbolewis #histedchat my first year tching VCE 20th C history course. Finding WW2 trickier to approach than WW1. 
-8:34 PM May 8th, 2013

historyboy77 Morning #Histedchat -8:34 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Hi good people at #histedchat, we are live. Tonight’s topic: Teaching 20th C wars, should be great 
convos.If u are new, pls introduce urself -8:32 PM May 8th, 2013

SeanRMeehan “Never, never, never give up.”-Churchill Great Good Luck to #ibhistory students the world over! 
#sschat #histedchat #ibo #ib -8:18 PM May 8th, 2013

olivesnsunshine @vanweringh Uploaded the gender qu. Memories my hist teacher who called a unit “Herstory” + our 
@OxfamAustralia work on gender #histedchat -8:03 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @olivesnsunshine 🙂 See you soon! Got any more Q suggestions? http://t.co/ZuvTV94aBu #histedchat -7:53 
PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Contribute question ideas for tonight’s #histedchat? Topic: 20th C wars. http://t.co/kuJl7H4rvS 
@HistoryNeedsYou @bilbolewis @BakEsteR1984 -7:52 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh @Historylecturer Thank you! Book suggestions much appreciated! #histedchat -7:51 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh Contribute question ideas for tonight’s #histedchat? Topic: 20th C wars. http://t.co/kuJl7H4rvS 
@mesterman @connectedtchr @historyboy77 -7:47 PM May 8th, 2013

BakEsteR1984 RT @vanweringh: #histedchat is on tonight, 8:30pm AET (9:30am GMT). Topic: 20c Wars. Please RT. 
#sschat #historyteacher #vicpln #edchat -7:46 PM May 8th, 2013

Janpcim RT @vanweringh: #histedchat is on tonight, 8:30pm AET (9:30am GMT). Topic: 20c Wars. Please RT. #sschat 
#historyteacher #vicpln #edchat -7:33 PM May 8th, 2013

vanweringh 1 hr to go to #histedchat 8:30pmAET/9:30amGMT. Focus: 20th C Wars: How do we ‘teach’ m? What’s the 
purpose of teaching m? Fav activities? -7:28 PM May 8th, 2013

mesterman RT @vanweringh: #histedchat is on tonight, 8:30pm AET (9:30am GMT). Topic: 20c Wars. Please RT. #sschat 
#historyteacher #vicpln #edchat -7:24 PM May 8th, 2013

thammerlund RT @vanweringh: #histedchat is on tonight, 8:30pm AET (9:30am GMT). Topic: 20c Wars. Please RT. 
#sschat #historyteacher #vicpln #edchat -7:01 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer Harder for democracies that Anc Rev Kings to stop wars ‘cos issues/propaganda to make people fight 
prevent giving up early. #histedchat -6:49 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer WWII books (cont) “War memoirs” (Millkigan) “Quartered safe out here” (Macdonald Fraser) 3. 
TV/DVD: “World at War” #histedchat -6:46 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer WWII: 1. Too few Brits have heard of the China/Japan war. 2. Best books: “Fateful choices” 
(Kershaw) “Why the Allies Won (Overy) #histedchat -6:45 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer Less well known WWI books: “Barber of Putney” (Morton) “Road to St Julien” (St Clair) #histedchat 
-6:42 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer WWI: Not just mud and trenches. See Mesopotamia and TE Lawrence. Not just Brit failures: see 1918. 
#histedchat -6:40 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer Kept off today’s #histedchat by an engagement. Pity. One or two thoughts follow (early, I know) – 
6:39 PM May 8th, 2013

AverageMuslimMe RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Teaching resource about Burma WW2 #histedchat “@History_Ben: @HistoryNeedsYou 
resource on the National Archives http://t.co/3etyDZpfHM” -6:37 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou @CatherineRHart @bilbolewis @Kathmcg1 @broadievade @carlaleeB @historyboy77 jolly good. See you 
all for #histedchat at 11.30 GMT 8.30 AET -6:36 PM May 8th, 2013

CatherineRHart RT @vanweringh: #histedchat is on tonight, 8:30pm AET (9:30am GMT). Topic: 20c Wars. Please RT. 
#sschat #historyteacher #vicpln #edchat -6:33 PM May 8th, 2013

NemesisRepublic RT @HistoryNeedsYou: Teaching resource about Burma WW2 #histedchat “@History_Ben: @HistoryNeedsYou 
resource on the National Archives http://t.co/3etyDZpfHM” -6:28 PM May 8th, 2013

jpwxiix RT @vanweringh: #histedchat is on tonight, 8:30pm AET (9:30am GMT). Topic: 20c Wars. Please RT. #sschat 
#historyteacher #vicpln #edchat -6:27 PM May 8th, 2013

HistoryNeedsYou Teaching resource about Burma WW2 #histedchat “@History_Ben: @HistoryNeedsYou resource on the 
National Archives http://t.co/3etyDZpfHM” -6:18 PM May 8th, 2013

Historylecturer RT @vanweringh: #histedchat is on tonight, 8:30pm AET (9:30am GMT). Topic: 20c Wars. Please RT. 
#sschat #historyteacher #vicpln #edchat -6:17 PM May 8th, 2013